Parabellum

[Joadergame]

Hi guys,

Ingame many guys dont know what Parabellum is or better: was.
I think everyone who plays and enjoys Hedone would have actually enjoyed parabellum to the same amount or most likely more, so i wanted to show you the awesomeness of this, unfortunately not so well known, former project of Acony. Therefore I wanted to post some videos. (if this is for any reasons not allowed, please delete it):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=136fbLZspQM&feature=results_video&lr=1&ob=0

Thanks, CzKOtay for this really nice video and this is a great example for the gameplay which was loved by the community. The iron sight was useful, but it was not needed and bursting while moving was really effective and needed a decent amount of skill


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECC7MWDybhU

Another great video, this time by c2552 who did an really awesome job on giving a really nice insight into the game.


Now everyone who didnt know about parabellum is informed, that was what I wanted :)

Greetz,

Joadergame

EDIT:
If there is anything to add or remove, please tell me :)

[snIt wasn't me]

Good old memories...
I will check if I can upload our famous "Community Video" again.

Best,
Snit

[Joadergame]

Good old memories...
I will check if I can upload our famous "Community Video" again.

Best,
Snit
Nice idea,

I got some clips myself, but they arent really good and sooo short-.-

[gaertner]

Unfortunately we will never be able to play this awesome game again (or will we? nah :().

[Joadergame]

or will we?!

Probably not.-

[-=blackness=-]

:crying: old times, really good times : ) i wasnt good in parabellum, but i loved its potential and community, at least most of the of the community is still next to me on the field : )
2 things i want: the AR accuracy with single shoots and to be able to see others laser points, i didnt see it in hedone ,but it's written we should see it...

[Joadergame]

the AR accuracy with single shoots

Pretty much this.

[HeadBreaker]

the good old "alleys"... i miss you :-(

[gaertner]

Hmm I kinda like Wreck, but Greenwich Village had been way better than Drain :/

[-=blackness=-]

Yeah, greenwich was awesome, and i like wreck too, but it would be nice to see something like old alleys again : )

[ACO_KittySparkles]

Hmm I kinda like Wreck, but Greenwich Village had been way better than Drain :/

How? It's the exact same gameplay as for the level concerned.

[Rìkk]

Dudes, can i have the Beta Tester group? I can't read the CBT2.4 Announcement :( (And I'm a beta tester :P)

[gaertner]

How? It's the exact same gameplay as for the level concerned.

Nah, especially the hightlevel differences in the center corridor are bothering me a lot... Same with the way up to the point right of the defenders spawn.
And it's less closed down (the bridge in the middle had a roof, as well as most of the second layer).
Also it looks kinda boring (sorry).

[Joadergame]

Nah, especially the hightlevel differences in the center corridor are bothering me a lot... Same with the way up to the point right of the defenders spawn.
And it's less closed down (the bridge in the middle had a roof, as well as most of the second layer).
Also it looks kinda boring (sorry).

No offense, but I think gaertner is right. I liked the look of greenwich village more than drain, also I feel like the open area in the middle, where the bridge is, is much bigger than at greenwhich village (might only be a feeling though)

[-=blackness=-]

How? It's the exact same gameplay as for the level concerned.
i noticed it's greenwich2 when Joady told me that, i think it aint the same, or even similar... ; /

[wahe]

That was times. I didn't play this game for long time, because I started playing a few days before they canceled the contract. They should use the old weapon skins for Hedone.

[Dr.Psycho]

DAAAAAAAH! Gimme that Game! Noooooow. *cough*
äh, sorry, that wasn't planned. Whatever...

[-=blackness=-]

Yeah ,there was one thing missing in Parabellum, clown-cat-mohawk-soldier-Psycho

[ACO_KittySparkles]

Nah, especially the hightlevel differences in the center corridor are bothering me a lot... Same with the way up to the point right of the defenders spawn.
And it's less closed down (the bridge in the middle had a roof, as well as most of the second layer).
Also it looks kinda boring (sorry).

What would you suggest to make it less boring?


No offense, but I think gaertner is right. I liked the look of greenwich village more than drain, also I feel like the open area in the middle, where the bridge is, is much bigger than at greenwhich village (might only be a feeling though)

Nope, it is the same width / length. It might feel more open as the trees are no longer there.


i noticed it's greenwich2 when Joady told me that, i think it aint the same, or even similar... ; /

Haha, trust me, it is the same layout (we spent quite some time on incorporating new opportunities, yet keeping the layout more or less the same). Sure, it has more height variety (to fit the theme and make the level less 'flat') and more open roofs (to accomodate mortars). Timings, routes and locations are still the same. Unless you were refering to the visuals, then yes, it's very much different hehe ;).

But I'd say we should stick to discussing Parabellum in this thread (as that is the original subject), instead of comparing it to Hedone or how Hedone is not Parabellum.

[Joadergame]

But I'd say we should stick to discussing Parabellum in this thread (as that is the original subject), instead of comparing it to Hedone or how Hedone is not Parabellum.
This is what the thread was intended for, thx for mentioning^^

Btw:
Anyone wanna state his favouritte map and weapon setup?

Mine was Pier and the M8A3 (as it was called back then :)) with laser pointer and high damage ammo
So powerful and accurate^^

[gaertner]

What would you suggest to make it less boring?

It's very similar to maps like shanty and cactus, but both of this maps have interesting points (tunnels, a gas station, a donut, etc) or backgrounds (the highway, windmills, etc). Drain hasn't really got either of that... also it isn't all that colorful.
So maybe changing the background (maybe a canyon? :P), or make some points more remarkable... you could also add more grass/trees/green stuff and make it look more jungely (would be quite nice).

Oh yeah and Ak47 with muzzlebreaker & red dot (laser) + Pier :)

[schranzkopp]

I loved Alleys the way it was back then. Wreck is cool as well but it's not alleys anymore. Rooftop was great, too. And some other levels which never made it to the official releases. :(

Rocking in Alleys with the M870 was the greatest fun... At times when there were only a few guys who used the shotguns.

[HeadBreaker]

addressed to Acony:

I've got a little idea. How about if would come "Alleys" and "Rooftop" as EasterEgg this? :rolleyes:

I come up with this idea, because there are many players (from Parabellum-time) who miss these maps.

[ACO_KittySparkles]

addressed to Acony:

I've got a little idea. How about if would come "Alleys" and "Rooftop" as EasterEgg this? :rolleyes:

I come up with this idea, because there are many players (from Parabellum-time) who miss these maps.

This is highly unlikely, as those were Parabellum maps, and do not fit into the Hedone world.

[Joadergame]

This is highly unlikely, as those were Parabellum maps, and do not fit into the Hedone world.

Thats a bit sad-.-

But back to topic:
What I wanted to ask is:

Does anyone have some more clips of pb version 1328 which arent yet on youtube?
And if so, could you post these?
I have two but I failed hard at one (cuz of the turret in S&D which was a really nice idea btw :))


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4pbu9Q0V9Q
Ran into that turret like I was dumb ;PP


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EYJac9X9qo
Here I was a little bit better ;PP

Again, if you have some pls post them to keep the memory alive!^^

[LosioLom]

This is highly unlikely, as those were Parabellum maps, and do not fit into the Hedone world.

Too bad, it would be nice to see old maps again, but I can't really understand why, is there some kind of copyright or something like that with gamefirst? Bacause Hedone plot makes pretty much every map fit easily into it's world "anything to make fans happy and show interesting", so a little modyfications of those maps would do the trick.

[ACO_KittySparkles]

You cán see those maps again, just launch Parabellum ;).

I was more talking about visual quality. The visual quality bar is much higher for Hedone (In my opinion). The levels would feel out of place. And above all, you would have the same map twice (layout wise).

I don't mean this rude or something, but you guys should consider/start considering Parabellum as a different game from Hedone. Just because we are the same company and use some of the existing Parabellum content, it doesn't make it Parabellum ;). Parabellum is part of the past (for many reasons, including the GamersFirst topic).

So again, let's stay on topic (discuss Parabellum), but please stop comparing it to Hedone, as these are two different games.

Also

I loved Alleys the way it was back then. Wreck is cool as well but it's not alleys anymore. Rooftop was great, too. And some other levels which never made it to the official releases. :(

I really don't get it. Gameplay wise, Wreck is the same. Sure, it has some more accessible areas, but in my opinion (I mean, I also worked on Alleys back in the days) it doesn't break the flow of the level. Aaaaanyways, now I'm getting off-topic myself :P.

[Joadergame]

So again, let's stay on topic (discuss Parabellum), but please stop comparing it to Hedone, as these are two different games.



Thanks for helping me to keep the thread ontopic ;P

Btw what I missed at pb were Tournaments (e.g. 2on2, 5on5)

So why not do a tournament in Hedone OB? If anyone has suggestion you can post them here.
Now Im getting offtopic myself but at least were in the right forum category for that xDD

[ACO_KittySparkles]

We actually did one internally and was a lot of fun :). I'd say open a thread for that idea!

[schranzkopp]

I really don't get it. Gameplay wise, Wreck is the same. Sure, it has some more accessible areas, but in my opinion (I mean, I also worked on Alleys back in the days) it doesn't break the flow of the level. Aaaaanyways, now I'm getting off-topic myself :P.

I just loved the setting of parabellum. I Always liked those close quarter city maps. Maybe because it was les sopen it seemd more structured to me, maybe it was also related to the different colours that had been utilized in the map (wall colors etc).

Anyway I immediately recognized Alleys when I played on wreck the first time so you did a good job converting it. But as said before I just like the old setting as well.
Aditionally Alleys is connected for me with awesome shotgun action. For some reason Shotguns were so f***ing effective at that time and hardly anyone used it. So I used to terrify everyone on alleys with my remington XD

btw I really had to smile when I saw "The Holy Ship" from Pier on one of the hedone maps. And those who don't know the story of the holy ship may ask Frank ;)

[Zeus]

Seems like a good time to throw this in. I'm not sure which version(s) of Parabellum the clips were taken from, but this is a little compilation video I made awhile back that I thought some fans might enjoy. It features quite a bit of action from the alley map in particular. Hopefully this youtube provided embed code will work out, it doesn't seem to show up properly in the post preview... anyhow, here goes:
(didn't seem to work, trying again using the forums Video button...)


http://youtu.be/UULFg_WYAxQ

[gaertner]

It would be nice if we would have another community video competition in Hedone (open beta). :)

...

But it's kinda hard/bad without a demo recording function. :/

[snIt wasn't me]

Okay guys, I will upload our Community Video soon! ;)

[Joadergame]

What is bad about this vid is that I cant watch it couse of GEMA -.-

[HeadBreaker]

you need this: ProxTube für Firefox (http://www.headdys-info-pool.de/index.php?site=files&file=23)

or this: ProxTube für Chrome (http://www.headdys-info-pool.de/index.php?site=files&file=22)

[Joadergame]

Nice thanks Mr. headbreaker^^

Zeus, the gameplay is nice but the quality is kinda bad unfortunately-.-

Edit: What I am wondering is, if there will ever be such a chellenging and gameplay wise amazing game like pb cause everything gets more and more casual and noob friendly-.-

[snIt wasn't me]

Here we go my friends! ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFS4z6Xvfis

[Joadergame]

God is that awesome!
I want more!^^

[snIt wasn't me]

I'll have to look if I can find outtakes or pre-versions.. ;)

[ACO_KittySparkles]

I LOL'ed at this. I remember that back in the day we were thinking about adding a trigger at the cola machine. Use it 5 times and you get 100 cola cans thrown at you LOL.

[schranzkopp]

That would've been awesome!
I always really liked that video.

This is anothre one, made by my good friend [-Spawn-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEsQQfQWO_o&feature=g-user-u&context=G27d45e9UCGXQYbcTJ33aACR48z97Gzv3QK1pODuQ6 OXkoo6hWWdI

He was the other guy terrifying everyone with his shotgun on Alleys. I was good. He was god.

[snIt wasn't me]

Lol Kiity! Would the coke heal the players for ingame cash? ^^

[schranzkopp]

Snit just discovered a new money source :P

[Andraxxus]

Wow this brings so many memories that make me go T_T. Unfortunately I have no video recording of PB because I had a PC that could barely play the game little less record it. :C

However I did have some 20GB of pictures showing funny stuff in the game. ^_^

As for the PB to Hedone comparison I think that while it may not be fair since they are 2 different games I believe that comparing PB to Hedone is the BEST and almost ONLY (yeah I know maybe I should not have used Shift ^_^) way for the devs to know what is it exactly that the players say is wrong since the game was made by (almost) the same people.

It would be pretty easy (or not) but quite as fair because if I were to say that game X is better than Hedone then it might require some time to be spent by someone at Acony to investigate that gameplay aspect (assuming that the reported "issue" was gameplay related) before being able to "remedy" it. ^_^

Also I loved all the comments. And am I the only one that can still see the maps in almost complete detail in his head. ?_?

[shuutju]

And am I the only one that can still see the maps in almost complete detail in his head. ?_?

...definitly not :D

[Joadergame]

Also I loved all the comments. And am I the only one that can still see the maps in almost complete detail in his head. ?_?

same here.
Walking through Pier in my head atm^^

[snIt wasn't me]

Who can tell me a place in PB where you could read "No Gathering!"? ;)

Difficult... ^^

[JTheJackal]

I played it in the beta Acony held before it was hosted by G1, quite liked it back then even though it wasn't that close to finished. Didn't enjoy it so much after G1 took on the hosting, though.